Green Letters
      Research of Sarah Tanner


Feb 2014


1816    22/11   Gentlemen                                           Hayle Mill 

At the request of Mrs Balcombe a parishioner of yours who works for me I write to say that she is not able to support herself with the wages she receives being in a bad state of health and the days very short she humbly hope you will allow her 2 shilling per week to help her through the winter as she hopes to support her self in the summer  I think her a person deserving your aid your answer will oblige as something must be done shortly

I remain Gentlemen.  Your obt Sernt                          John Green

[CKS Cranbrook, Kent Overseers Miscellaneous. Lletter from John Green of Hayle Mill ref/ p100/16/7 date 1815-1817]

1827    20/10   Letter to Charles Ellis Secretary Committee of Earl Street Chapel


My Dear Sir

Having after mature and very anxious deliberation come to the decifion to accept of an invitation which I have received  from the morning congregation of Worship Street London.

I beg leave through you to intimate to the Committee my intention of resigning my office as Minister of Earl St Chapel  in three months from this time.  And I can afsure you that I do this with feelings of sincere regret that my connexion with the Society will have been so short, with sentiments of gratitude for the kindnefs I have experienced, of lively attachment to many of its members which I hope my removal to London will not destroy, and with a very earnest desire that my place may be supplied by a Minister every way better fitted to promote their individual and the general good.

I am my dear sir.  Yrs and the Society’s obliged friend.                  Benjamin Mardon

[Records held at the chapel]

1851    Dec     Letter from Samuel Green to John Green Hayle Mill

‘Sevenoaks Dec.1851.  My dear brother, last Christmas I wrote to you stating that as profits have been seriously cut down I thought it only right that you should submit to some deduction in your salary.  My letter was not answered with the spirit in which it was written but I was told that if I did not like it I might give you a years notice to quit.  I was and am now exceedingly unwilling to have any misunderstanding with you but I must protest my own interest.  I now write to propose that after the 31st of Dec. your salary shall be £150 pounds with house rent free.  After the manner in which my last letter was received I forbear to say any more but that I hope to receive your reply by the 28th December and that if we cannot then agree I must give you the notice referred to.

Your affectionate Brother   Samuel Green

[Letter book 1851-1855 HMA  7/1/1/]

1852    Undated letter but from its content September 1852 – it was amongst the papers of Henry Green [Ref: JA/B15]

My dear son                                                                Ashford Road

I am very glad to inform you that J Barcham Green and I have at last brought things to a settlement and I have got the agreement he as secured J Green & Son to himself   I should not have had an income without selling the name  I am to have £100 per year £25 per quarter for my life and your Mother £50 per year for her life to be paid quarterly   I am exceedingly sorry I was obliged to do so on account of my sons    you know that your uncle Saml bought my life in Mount Pleasant Estate and your two sisters and John and Charles shares there are two or three persons want to by Thurnham Estate I think your share is worth 150 to £160 it lets at £15 per year 30 year purchase at 75 2250 12 shares

On reverse is written: this is part of a letter I have just found some things I have not mention in the new letter so you have them both in a very unfortunate state  I am sure you will spare my hand and study

Another letter undated

I thought you should know how my brother stands  We are all well that is your mother self and sisters Mrs Powell all very well pray write me soon   I am obliged to you for sending the news paper to me and with many thanks for the present you sent  I am in hopes we shall do now pretty well   With my […] to  Mrs Green self and family

I remain my dear son      Affect   John Green

My brother Saml when I was in trouble took everything I had and now I think I have very much over paid him

1852    8/11     Letter from John Barcham Green to Mr  John Green, Post Office Box Glasgow

Dear Sir, You are no doubt aware that my uncle has for a long time been unable to attend to business and he has now expressed a wish to retire and I feel persuaded that a removal to some drier place is the only chance he has of recovery – In making arrangements for his retirement I propose paying up to Christmas the same salary as before and afterwards 100£ per year including the interest of 200£ at 4 per cent which I owe him, for his life [insurance?] I now wish to ask whether you (& I write to Chas by same post [Charles William Green Edinburgh]  are willing to enter into an agreement with an other effect that in the event of your “entering” into business as a paper maker you will not use the trade mark of J Green & Son to mind a detriment nor authorise any person to do so that if from any made I should be to pay the said £100 per year that you & Chas be and in whatever way you think shall for yourself ………

[Letter book 1851-1855 HMA  7/1/1 p 121]  [Similar letter to Charles William Green p128]

1852    14/11   Letter from Charles William Green to his cousin John Barcham Green

                        Valleyfield, Penicuick

My dear John:  I understood that it was in contemplation when your father entered in possession of Hayle Mill to have admitted my father to a part in the concern in consideration of the name etc and that a promise to this effect or something very much like it was made.  For reasons which are understood this arrangement never took place, and I think you will admit that if it had his position might have been somewhat different.

I think the proposition herein contained you will not consider at all unreasonable and that is that on his retiring from the business at Hayle Mill in consideration of the benefits which accrue from your retaining the power of using his name or that of J. Green & Son: he be allowed the sum of one hundred pounds yearly during his life and in case my mother survived him that she after his demise during her life have the sum of fifty pounds per annum paid to her.

Trusting you will not deem this proposition at all exorbitant.

I am dear John   Yours very truly,  Charles W. Green                      [HMA 8/3/85]

1852    Undated letter but I think from content its September 1852 – it was amongst the papers of Henry Green

My dear son                                                    Ashford Road

                        I am very glad to inform you that J Barcham Green and I have at last brought things to a settlement and I have got the agreement he as secured J Green & Son to himself  I should not have had an income without selling the name  I am to have £100 per year £25 per quarter for my life and your Mother £50 per year for her life to be paid quarterly   I am exceedingly sorry I was obliged to do so on account of my sons    you know that your uncle Saml bought my life in Mount Pleasant Estate and your two sisters and John and Charles shares there are two or three persons want to by Thurnham Estate I think your share is worth 150 to £160 it lets at £15 per year 30 year purchase at 75 2250 12 shares

On reverse is written: this is part of a letter I have just found some things I have not mention in the new letter so you have them both in a very unfortunate state  I am sure you will spare my hand and study

Another letter undated

I thought you should know how my brother stands  We are all well that is your mother self and sisters Mrs Powell all very well pray write me soon   I am obliged to you for sending the news paper to me and with many thanks for the present you sent  I am in hopes we shall do now pretty well   With my very kind love to Mrs Green self and family.           I remain my dear son.   Affect   John Green

My brother Saml when I was in trouble took everything I had and now I think I have very much over paid him

16 years rent half part farm £37.10 per year                         £600

John and Charles 2 shares in farm                            £200

Rags at [….]wharf set of                                          £600

My life policy worth at my death 1500 plus he int

John                                     all was sold

[….] sum all together                                                £500


Some time the family may say I owed their father money but I do not he owed me          

1857    17/6     Letter from Eliz Ellis to John Barcham Green

My dear John,                                                             Ashford Road

As my Mother is now in Devonshire and I am going from home to day will you be so good as to pay her annuity to Mr Ellis Senr when it is due and he will give you an acknowledgement of it.   I remain.     Yours truly/               Elizth M Green

                                                                                    Maidstone June 24th 1857

Recd of Mr J Barcham Green Twelve pounds ten shillings due 24th June 1857

£12.10.             Charles Ellis.                         [HMA 1857 1/18/3]

1853    14/10   letter to Henry Green from his father 

My dear son                                                    Ashford Road,

On my return here on Monday I found a letter from you and I was exceedingly glad to have one  I have not had a letter for you for so long a time it give me great pleasure to hear that you and Mrs Green and all your family was quite well  You mother I am happy to say is quite well and your sisters also I thank the last present you sent me I ought to have thank you before the Docktor [sic] bill was large all paid off and I think we are going on pretty well and thank a kind providence for all his mercies.  I am going to meet Mr Leaney on Monday and if he wants to pay the £300  Bond can you find out a place to put out the money at 7 per cent he only pays 4 per cent

I hope you and Mrs Green will come and stop a week or two we shall be very happy to see you most likely it will be the last time both our ages make 164 years your uncle Saml   was in his 84 year there are 3 or 4 persons wanting the offer of Mount Pleasant Farm  My brother family have nine shares you Mr Marden and Mr Powell have three shares it lets for £25 per year 30 years parches [sic] on land you know your uncle had my life interest on the rent so I have not anything to do with it so the nine share holders do not want to sell as they have all the rent your share is worth £250 if you like to sell and Mr Bucking executor would by your part £7.10.0 interest  I am not sure you can sell before my death  Charles nor John have not wrote me for a very long time I cannot say what can be their reason I cannot say but I feel very much hurt having no business I have no one to talk to I am sometimes low spirited I am in dark times.        [Ref: JA/B15]

1854    13/3     Letter written to Mary Green from John Phillip Green         London

Dear Mother

Before my note reaches you you will no doubt have heard that my grandfather died on Saturday morning about 11 o’clock.  Harry Powell came to me yesterday in the early part of the afternoon to tell me and of course I did not go to Hampstead to do the tearooms. He arrived just as I was setting out. I called at Finsbury Square yesterday evening and saw Aunt Powell who told me more about it than Harry had done.  My grandfather tho’s he had in a great ……lost consciousness towards the last does not seem to have suffered much from his complaint and all that could be done was done. We shall all be very sorry to lose him & shall think of him as a good & thoroughly kind hearted man. Will my father come to Maidstone. I suppose he will and how will it be about my going down. Let me hear by return please. I received your note safely this morning and have hurried up just in time to answer it.  I think if you would direct ordinary letter to ……school it would be better as I should then get them early in the morning. However in such a case as this it was perhaps better as it was.  Give my love to my father and all and believe me.   Yours very affectionately.            John Philip Green

If my father comes would you ask him to bring my Caeser that I think is in my bed room but it was in the schoolroom. It is a small dark backed book and is Dachnes Edition.  I am wanting it in class

1854    26/11   Letter from Elizabeth Green to Henry Green [Ref: JA/B15]

My dear Henry                                               Ashford Road             Nov 26th 1854

I have been thinking lately that it is a long time since letters has passed between us, and as I know that  [….]  […] part of our family is always interesting to the other I write now hoping soon to hear what you are all doing.  Dear mother [….] […..] being home here last Friday week.  She seems to be remarkably well and is pleased with the arrangements made for her reception, and it is a great relief, and comfort to us to have her actually under our own roof.  Her greatest hope that Ann Mardon will come to spend Christmas day with us but her stay will only be for a few days as she will be anxious to go to Sidmouth to settle in her new home.  Our plans for the holiday are not yet determined.  If Mrs Mardon should remain in London for a short time after Christmas Louisa will most likely go into Devonshire with Ann to help her get her new house ready; in which case they will both leave here on the 26th Dec and Louisa will be away a fortnight. But should Mrs Mardon decide to go with Ann, Louisa will not accompany them.  At all events, I hope Louisa will be at home again about Jan 12th when if dear Annie and Ellen or indeed if any of your family can come and stay with us for a short time before we begin our school duties again, we shall be very much pleased to see them.  Let us know soon if we may hope for a visit from any of you and though the weather is not very inviting at this season of the year yet we can promise them a hearty welcome in doors.  I suppose you have heard of Mary Green’s serious illness at Kidderminster; we were very glad this morning to have rather an informed account, but I fear it will be some time before she will be well enough to be brought home.  We still have little Katie with us and we all feel very glad that Mrs Charles Green has been prevailed upon to delay her voyage to Canada  till the Spring.  Kate is a very sweet little child and doing nicely with us in every way.  Will you thank dear Mary for the silk which she sent us for a frock for Kate which will make a very pretty nice dress.

We are very much enjoying our new school room(s) and wondering now that we have the comfort of more space how we could have done before.

The headstone to our dear father’s memory has lately been  completed and (Lawhinson) being in want of the money for it, came to us for payment as he had written to John (about a fortnight ago) sent a post office order for half the amount and at the sametime doubted not that you would send us an order for the other half.  As we have heard nothing about it from you, I think it right to mention what has passed with John and should you be sending soon, will you have the order made payable to Louisa Green .  My mother and Louisa write with me our most kind love to dear Mary, yourself and your circle and believe me ever,

Your affectionate sister.     Eliz M Green


1855    8/1       Letter from Elizabeth M Green to her cousin John Barcham Green [HMA 1/18/2]

Sir, My mother desires me to thank you for the cheque received yesterday and to say that as her sight is not good enough to write her name easily now I have signed the receipt for her which I hope will be satisfactory to you. I remain, Sir, Yours respectfully, Elizbth M. Green

1855    16/4                             Maidstone                   16th April 1855

Dear Sir

The sums I had for your Sisters Mrs Marden Mrs Powell and yourself are stated on the other side.  As I had 3 or 4 attendances at Somerset House before I cd get the amounts passed my charge for such attendances and the preparation of this sum and copies will be £1 in each case. I hold the receipts where are documents of letter affecting the proberty.   I am  Dear Sir.  Yours faithfully

I cannot read the signature

The Rev H Green        [from the papers of Henry Green]             

1855    26/6     Letter from Elizabeth M. Green [Henry Powell’s sister-in-law] to her cousin John Barcham Green

My dear Cousin,                                                                     Ashford Road

By the memory of former friendship between us I cannot let this time of such affliction pass without writing to tell you of it.  My dear sister Emily’s husband died last Saturday night after three days illness.  My mother was staying there at the time but Louisa and I were in Devonshire, where on Sunday we received a Telegraphic Message to tell us of the sad event.  Louisa is with Emily and the funeral will be on Friday at Chichester.  Believe me, Yours very truly. Elizth M. Green’                             [HMA June-July 1855 7/2/1-18]

1855    29/6     Henry Powell aged 48 years was buried ‘under the yew tree’ in the Chichester General Baptist Burial Ground located at the side of Whyke Lane to the South of the Hornet (on the east side of Chichester). The date and district of certificate is given as 27 June 1855 Finsbury No 9 and the date of death as 23 June 1855. [WSRO NC/GB1/2/3]

1855    27/12   Elizabeth Green  to John Barcham Green

My dear John                                      Ashford Road

My mother desires me to thank you for the cheque which she received this morning and to send you back the receipt which I have signed for her. I was sorry to hear a few days ago that your little girl was not well, but I trust she is now better and that the rest of your family are well. With the compliments of the season. Believe me. 

Yours truly,                Elizabeth M. Green                            [HMA Dec 1855 7/2/21]

1856    7/11     Extract from a letter written by John Philip Green to his mother Mary Green

“First as to my Maidstone visit I arrived about 4 on Thursday afternoon and of course made my way directly to King Street. I thought both my  aunts looking very well particularly Louisa and in good spirits.  My grandmother is wonderfully active and alive considering her age.  Her loss of sight made her careful and timid in moving about but now that she has regained it there seems little difference in her from what I have always known.  The next morning I walked over to Tovil to see Uncle Charles whom I thought looking thin and anxious.  They say that the Canada visit has had a very injurious effect on him.  He seems to have liked the place and would have stayed but the climate was too changeable & severe. I do not fancy he will stay much longer where he is & wish he may soon find a more comfortable settlement which I am sure he deserves.  He told me that one of the Cowans said to him that since he had been with them their paper had improved 10 per cent which on a capital of 80 or £90.00 is a large sum and it seems hard that Charles should not have had more benefit from the services he rendered. I also called at Hayle Mill where I found John Green much as usual.  Mrs J.G. I did not see.”


1857    19/9     Letter from Henry Green to his cousin John Barcham Green

Dear Cousin,                           Heathfield,                  Knutsford   

I am naturally desirous of obtaining what interest I can on behalf of my son, who is about, this next October, to commence the practice of his profession as a Chancery barrister on Conveyance and equity draftsman. You are I believe aware how successfully and honourably he has passed through his studentship for the law, and therefore I make less apology for asking you, when a proper opportunity offers, to mention his name to any of your solicitor or attorney friends. His name will be found in the regular law lists and his address, or chambers, No 3 Stone Buildings, Lincoln’s Inn.  I have been making a change in my own engagements in having relinquished my school this midsummer.  My daughters however are about to commence a school for young ladies in the same house and as I am sure they will endeavour to desire support I trust they will obtain it.  I have not been in your neighbourhood for some time but have been glad to hear that the world is not unprosperous with you.  With kind regards, in which my family write I remain yours very sincerely Henry Green.

[HMA 7/2/18 /29]  [3 Stone Buildings is missing from 1861 census]



1858    5/2       Letter from Henry Green to JPG date from postmark on envelope

My dear Sir

I am about to publish a jeu d’esprit, the title of which I enclose. You will perceive that it is without my name, - and therefore I mention it to you in confidence.  I am venturing to ask if you will have it in your power to assist in the circulation and sale.  If you could and would order a few copies through me directly, the profit to myself would be so much the more as I should save the booksellers deductions.  But I do not desire any subscription of subscribers. The work will be ready in about a fortnight.

With kind regards to yourself and Mrs Green.

Believe me,  faithfully yours     Henry Green

As no one in my family at home knows of my intended publication if you write to me address me, without any name.  Master of out Chancery, Mr John Heywood,

170 Deansgate, Manchester.              [HMA 7/2/34 Jan-Feb 1858]

1858    27/2     Letter from Henry Green to his cousin John Barcham Green

Dear Sir,                                      Heathfield                                      Knutsford

I am sending you by this Post a copy of my little book, the price of which is 3/6. Whatever you may think of the letterpress you will I am sure consider the frontispiece, - the note me langere very spirited and clever.  I hope however that you will like the book itself and from conviction and not simply from friendship give it your recommendation.  I shall be obliged by anything you can do to promote its sale as it was begun in the first instance with a benevolent object in view, about which I have expended some money, and if this jeu d’esprit be successful I shall get repaid.

It will give me much pleasure to stay a day or two with you when I visit Kent – which I hope will be within no very distant period.

With kind regards to Mrs Green and yourself

Believe me, yours very sincerely    Henry Green

There has been a delay in the publication, and the work did not come out before yesterday, so that you have it new from the mint.                      [HMA 7/2/35 March 1858]

1859    20/4     Letter from Henry Green to John Barcham Green his cousin

My dear Sir,               Heathfield                   Knutsford    April 20 1859

I do not know what your political bias may be at the present moment but I take the liberty of recommending, if they need recommendation, the claims of Mr Charles Buxton to your consideration as a candidate to represent Maidstone.  I have very little personal acquaintance with him, but as the son in law of Sir Henry Holland Bart he is often mentioned to me and from his votes, speeches in parliament, and character regard him as one every way qualified to take his place again in the House of Commons.  Should you agree with me in these opinions I shall be glad to hear that you have given him your vote and interest, and should you differ from me, you will I am sure excuse my naming to you a candidate whose character is worthy of his descent and connexions.

Will you make my kind regards to Mrs Green, and believe me.

Yours ever sincerely,  Henry Green.                          [HMA 7/2/49]

1859    2/5       Letter from Henry Green to J B Green

My dear  Sir                                                    Knutsford        May 2 1859

I thank you very much for your attention in sending me a card of the close of the poll for Maidstone. I congratulate you and rejoice with you in the result for I feel confident you could not find amore suitable man than Mr Charles Buxton for your representative. Besides public grounds I am also glad of his return, because Mrs Buxton’s aunts, who are some of our kindest and most intimate friends, were very desirous of it. He posseses talent, energy and principle and these combined give the promise of a highly useful public life.

Your wife and family I hope are well.  My daughters’ school is promising and in time I hope they will succeed.               Rejoicing with you and all the liberal party in Maidstone.   I remain,  Yours very sincerely,                     Henry Green

You must have had a great struggle to carry your two men, and neck and neck as they are.                      [HMA Jane 1867 7/2/164]

1859    18/5     Letter from Elizth M Green to J B Green Esq           

My dear John                          Ashford Road                                May 18th 1859

We have several pupils now with us who are wishing to see the process of paper making and as they are going to have a holiday next Tuesday will you be so kind as to let them go over your Mill on that day?  If you give permission and the weather will permit Louisa will be at Hayle Mill about 10 o’clock.  Will you let me know how many of the young ladies may go over the Mill?

With kind regards believe me, Yours sincerely,  Elizth M Green     [HMA 7/2/50]

1859    5/7    Letter written by John Philip Green to his father Henry on the death of his grandmother.


1859    2/7       Letter from Louisa Green to John Barcham Green

My dear John              Ashford Road                                       Saturday July 2nd 1859

From my yesterday’s note you will not be unprepared to hear that my dear Mother breathed her last to day about 1 o’clock. Her illness has been very short and free from suffering and it was a great comfort to her to had had Mrs Mardon and Mrs Powell with her some days before her illness. 

With kind regards.   Believe me,   Yours sincerely,    Louisa Green.   [HMA 7/2/54]

1859    9/7 Letter written by Henry Green to his cousin J B Green Esq 

My dear Sir,                                 Upper King St [Maidstone]                   July 9 1859

I have concluded to remain in Maidstone until Tuesday morning and write a line or two to say that I shall be happy to dine with you on Monday 3 o’clock

I think you said was to be the time.  With kind regards believe me

Yours very sincerely,   Henry Green                         [HMA 7/2/51]

1859    31/8    Letter written by Henry Green from Heathfield, Knutsford to his cousin  John Barcham Green at Hayle Mill

My dear Sir

I had set out to preach in the neighbourhood of Whitehaven when your letter arrived and I only returned late last night.

I wrote my uncle William announcing my mother’s death and directed the letter to him at Mrs Kent’s, Whitehall Terrace Gravesend but I have not as yet had any reply. My letter has not been returned and I conclude therefore that it reached its destination.

I cannot account for no answer being sent to me. With yourself I should very much like to know how my uncle is. He may perhaps have been offended that he was not invited to my mother’s funeral, but I had nothing to do with making the arrangements, and therefore he has no reason to be offended with me.  Should you hear from him, or of him, I will thank you to let me know.

Mrs Green and your family are I hope all well.  I enjoyed my trip into Cumberland and stayed with some old friends. I climbed one of the hills, and had a clear view of the Isle of Man, the Mull of Gallow, and Scotland beyond the Solway, 15 or 16 Cumberland peaks and the whole sea south almost to Wales.

With kind regards believe me, Yours sincerely, Henry Green.        [HMA 7/2/53]

1864    29/6     Letter written by Eliz (nee Green) Ellis to John Barcham Green

My dear Cousin                                              Rocky Hill Terrace [Maidstone]

As you kindly offered to shew me over you Mill any day this week Mr Ellis, Louisa and I hope to have the pleasure of calling at Hayle Mill tomorrow (Thursday) morning about 11 o’clock unless the day should be wet.

With our united kind regards to Mrs Green and yourself.

I remain,  Yours very truly,    Elizth Ellis                                           [HMA 7/2/131]

1865    15/1     Letter from Louisa Green 3 Linton Terrace  to J Green Esq 6 Eversfield Place

Dear John                                                                                              Friday

As it seems to have set in for a wet evening we hope you will excuse our coming to you, though we are reluctant to give up the pleasure of seeing you again. I hope you will have a finer day for your journey tomorrow. With our kind regards to your circle

Believe me,   Yours truly,      Louisa Green.                         [HMA 7/2/139A]

1865    7/2       Letter from Elizth Ellis to J B Green Esq.

My dear Cousin                      2 Rocky Hill Terrace

Thanks for your note of this morning and though you cannot yet speak of much improvement in your health, I trust, ere long, to hear that you are deriving benefit from the Hastings air.  I am sure Louisa will be much pleased to see you, and now that I know your address I shall send it to her by this post.  She lives at 3 Linton Terrace, Bohemia Road and when you are able to walk as far as her house I shall think you must be much better.

Some friends of ours from the Isle of Wight who are now staying with us (Mr Pennock & his daughters) went over to Hayle Mill yesterday and as they had never seen the process of Paper Making your foreman took them over the Mill with which they were much pleased. Mr Pennock who knows the Adamses of Chichester very well was glad to be introduced to your wife as a daughter of Mr Crandall of whom he had frequently heard.  Of course you know that Mrs C Ellis is in Hasting (7 Pelham Place) she went yesterday.

Hoping to hear of your restoration to health, and with kind regards believe me

Yours very truly,                    Elizth Ellis.                                 [HMA 7/2/139B]

1865                   Letter written by Louisa Green to J B Green               

Dear John,                  3 Linton Terrace              Friday

As it seems to have set in for a wet evening we hope you will excuse our coming to you though we are reluctant to give up the pleasure of seeing you again.  I hope you will have a finer day for your journey tomorrow. With our kind regards to your circle

Believe me,  Yours truly,         Louisa Green.

1866    5/9       Heathfield, Knutsford

My dear sir

I conclude that you have received the copy of Whitney’s Emblems for which you paid me, and I hope you are pleased with it as a curious and artistic book.

I am sending you by this post a copy of a prospectus, and after looking at it I shall be obliged if you will let a bookseller orf repute in Maidstone have it with a request that he will allow it to be seen by his customers.

The copies on hand are not abot 60 and I have no anxiety as to the sale, but I should like to see th whole cleared off, before I engage in another work.

I hope yourself, Mrs Green and family are well. We all write in kind regards.

Your very sincerely,                           Henry Green.                [HMA 7/2/160]

1866    8/10     Letter written by Eliz Ellis to John Barcham Green

My dear Cousin,                     2 Rocky Hill Terrace

Some months ago Mrs Charles Ellis requested me to see Miss Bryant and ask her if she were likely to have a vacancy in her school soon, as you were anxious to send one of your sons to her. She has called on me to day to say she has (unexpectedly) a vacancy now therefore I write to you at once as I know her numbers are so soon filled up.  The reason Miss Bryant has not let Mrs Green know of any vacancy in the School since she called there is that hearing Herbert was at Miss Vannings Miss Bryant did not think it right to interfere with any arrangement then made with another lady.  I am sorry that I cannot give a good account of Mr Ellis, but for the last two days he has not been quite so well. I hope Mrs Green has quite recovered and that you and your family are well. With kind regards, believe me.  Yours very truly, Elizth M. Ellis           

[HMA 7/21/61 October 1866]

1866       18/11      Letter from Elizth M Ellis to her cousin J B Green Esq

My dear Cousin,                                 Rocky Hill Terrace                 Nov 18th 1866

I called on Miss Bryant yesterday and ascertained from Mrs Stevens that they still have a vacancy in their school, and they will be happy to receive your son at any time as I assured Mrs Stevens he is quite free from ring worm. His I did very readily after your statement upon the subject. Perhaps either Mrs Green or you will now communicate with Mrs Stevens as she asked me when you were likely to send your son.      With kind regards to Mrs Green & yourself.

I remain,    Yours very truly,  Elizth M Ellis.    [HMA Nov 1866 Bundle A 7/2/162]

1867    19/2        Letter from Henry Green to JPG                                                                  My dear Sir,                                        Heathfield,   Knutsford           Feb 19 1867

For a certain literary purpose of mind I am wanting a ream of 4to [Quarto] of large bank post extra thin and a ream 4to of  of small bank post extra thin - but I do not find in Manchester any which would suit me so well as the bank post of your make, which bears ink so well. If the sheets be othewise perfect a little size stain would be of no detriment for my purpose should it not be troublesome to execute so small an order I shall be much obiged if you will forward me the above by rail, form Euston Square London (North Western line) via Chelford .

I conclude you received from London the copy of the Whitney Reprint for which you paid me, and I hope, though the subject is old and odd and quaint you find it a satisfactory example of the early emblem literature. I had had several applications for the work from America, and I believe there are not above 40 copies now in the publishers’ hands.  As you have doubtless observed the printing and illustration of the work have cause considerable expense, but I believe I shall not incur any lose.

I shall be glad to have a good account of your health and that of your wife and family.  We have had a very heavy affliction in our family circle this winter, in the instanteneous death by a railway carriage of our nephew Brandreth Long, a very promising young man of 22 years of age.

My brother Charles yesterday began an engagement with the Wrigleys of Bury, Lancashire, and I am hopeful it will be a permanent one.

With kind regards, believe me,  Very sincerely yours, Henry Green. [HMA 1867  7/2/168]

1867       23/2        Letter from Henry Green to JBG

My dear Sir,                                        Heathfield  Knutsford            Feb 23rd 1867

I am much obliged to you for attending so promptly to my request. Whether blue or cream wove is of no consequence but on trial with the pink I find it will not suit my purpose so well as the others.  I like best,  both as to size & thinness and colour, the paper like the half sheet which I now return. I prefer it remaining of the full size, medium I think it is, the edges should not be cut simply the sheet and with the quarto size.              It would be a considerable convenience to me to have both the thick & thin quarto by the end of next week. I wish you all health & in your new abode and remain

Very truly yours,  Henry Green

J Barcham Green Esq

You will understand that a little size stain, or default of that kind will be no objection, but in all respects the sample I return enclosed will suite my purpose. I wish both reams to be of the same size & thickness, or thinness whichever you call it.

[HMA 1867 7/2/168]

1867    8/3          Letter from Henry Green to JBG

                                                Heathfield, Knutsford            March 8th 1867

I am in full sympathy with you to the coughing - for the weather has very wintry and I had to go from home for two days and have come back with a bad cold.

Thank you for the touble you are taking, the paper of which I received a sample today (Blenavon Iron Company Limited) will suit my purpose very well and I will promise (in due time) to use it myself. Will you therfore have the kindness as soon as you can to send me the two reams of  4to of which you speak with edges uncut.

If it had suited your plans I should have been very glad to have received a call from you on your recent journey

Your very sincerely.    Henry Green.                         [HMA 7/2/167]

1867    15/3        Letter from Henry Green to JBG

My dear Sir

The 2 reams of Medium Bank were delivered here yesterday and will suit me exceedingly well for the purpose for which I need them – thank you for letting me have them – for at the price I could get nothing at all equal.

I enclose a P O Order for the amount and will thank you to return the bill with a receipt.

Today I had a letter from Bombay, in which my son tells me that in a case in which he was counsel the trial had lasted three entire days on the two first from ten in the morning to 8 in the evening, and on the third day to finish the matter from 10 in the morning to ¼ past 10 at night, with an interval of only 20 minutes.  I think benevolent people should get a 10 hours bill to protect the lawyers from over work.

With kind regards to all your circle,              I remain my dear Sir,

Very sincerely yours,   Henry Green.                       

J B Green Esq,            [HMA  7/2/167].

1867    30/12      Letter from Louisa Green to John Barcham Green

My dear Cousin,                                             Otham Lodge.

We are all much obliged for your kind invitation for Wednesday, but as the distance is so great & the nights so short we hope we may be allowed to defer the pleasure of seeing you to a more favourable time of the year. We hope to be able to call on Mrs Green soon. With our kind remembrances to her and yourself & wishing you a happy new year believe me

Yours very sincerely,   Louisa Green.                       [HMA 7/2/179]

1868    30/1        Letter from Elizth M Ellis to John Barcham Green

My dear Cousin,                     Rocky Hill Terrace   Maidstone

Will you allow my friend Mr Collingwood (Mr Power’s successor) to go over your Mill with his friend Mrs Manley who is wishing to see the process of paper making.

With kind regards believe me,  Yours very truly,  Elizth M Ellis. [HMA 7/2/181 Jan-March]

1871    21/2        Letter from Ann Mardon to Mary Green

My darling Sister                   Tunbridge Wells                     Feb 21st 1871

I will not delay answering your letter – it can but make us very sad, but I will try to imitate your own calm resignation, and thank you for telling us in your own tender way how ill you are.  I have long feared it was of a serious nature, but did not like to make minute inquiries, as I always feel that you tell us all we ought to know. I sent your letter on to our sisters at Maidstone, and they have returned it, hoping as we do that you are not in a state of great suffering.  We know that you will have every alleviation that love and tender care can give you.  How dear you have always been to us I cannot attempt to tell you, now the hallowing influences your perfect trust that all is right, and your patient waiting has given to your beautiful letter – there is a sustaining [….] in all you say.  If without distress to you we may hope to have you longer with us, I can but cling to that hope.

I had been wishing to reply to your dear Emily’s letter, and to thank Mary for the papers she sent me, but each day seemed filled up.

I am very glad you have to look forward to seeing your dear ones from Bombay before long, and hope with warmer weather you may feel a little better before they come, and that all will be well.  Mrs Beeching told us lately that they had met with a gentleman from Bombay, a Mr Hall, who had spoken of Philip as a most respectable rising man, and that he had a such interesting life, but your girls will say they knew this before. I am afraid I can tell them nothing new.  They must be completely occupied, and though you will miss dear Annie and her family I can imagine the household rather too large, and they will not be very far from you.

Your account of Alfred is very comforting to his mother – he seems so very happy in his visits to Knutsford, writes often, and is altogether satisfactory – he had spoken of your keeping your room often and that you were not able to go to the private theatricals at Grove House – we are almost surprised that he was able to take his part with so much confidence.

It did not seem likely that Mr Alfred Holt would never marry again – and it is well his choice of Fanny Long is so well approved.  It is no disrespect to the memory of dear Catherine and I hope Louisa Long likes it.  Alfred speaks of often being at Grove House, and it speaks well for him that it is so.  Your dear Mother’s feebleness is much increased from Isabel’s account and her life so lengthened out, must hang by a slender thread which a slight thing may break.  What a tender mother she has been, and happy for her that painful things do not make a very vivid impression.  Mr Kenrick is much losing his memory and interest in present things.  Mrs K often speaks of you – knows you are seriously ill – sends kind regards, says she is so sorry, but glad she has seen you.  She is so unvarying in her kindness to us.

Emily joins me in dear love to you.  We shall be very glad to hear your appetite returns and you are a little better.  Dear love also to your mother and Isabel. My own dear patient sister goodbye – God be with you.

Yours affectionately,  Ann Mardon

Mrs H Green

1871       19/3   Letter from Louisa M Green to Mary wife of Rev. Henry Green

My dear Mary,      Rocky Hill Terrace,   Maidstone.             March 19th 1871

I have been wishing to write to you ever since Ann Mardon sent us a letter she had had from you a few weeks ago.  I have waited hoping that I might find a little undisturbed time in the preparations for removing which will take place now in a week, but I find there is none, & as it must still be some weeks before we are settled I will not longer delay writing. I will not dwell more on your letter than to say that we are deeply grieved at the intelligence it conveyed to us.  We had felt anxious for sometime my dear sister, but we did not think it was as serious as it is.  Your calm resignation to the inevitable makes us feel that you are dearer than ever to us, and we earnestly pray that you may have many blessings & comforts for some time, & that you may be spared any very great suffering.

You will be glad to know that Elizth is certainly better.  She is beginning to sleep better, & is able to bear more fatigue than she could three months ago.  We hope to find our new house pleasant & comfortable.  We expect to have many advantages from living near London.  Our best friends think we are taking the most desirable course by leaving Maidstone.  Our address will be 2 Enmore Park, South Norwood, S.E.  The house is about seven minutes walk from the Norwood Junction & within a walk of the Crystal Palace.  We shall be very much pleased to see any of our dear Heathfield friends if they can find time to come to us when they are visiting London.

We hope Annie & her family will find at Southport a pleasant home. I think you always liked it.  We think of your dear Mother with much tender love, and of you too my dearest.  We hope to leave this on the 27th.  Elizabeth & Kate join me in kind love to all our dear friends, and with every good wish believe me

Yours affectionately,  Louisa M Green

1871       5/4          Letter written Mary Green from her sister-in-law Ann Mardon

Darling Sisiter                                                T.Wells                        5 April 1871

What a dear, kind Isabel you have at Heathfield to send me such a nice letter this morning!  Will you tell her I thank her very much.  I had not expected you to make the exertion to write to me yourself, tho your letters are very precious, and we heard from Alfred that sometimes you had but one daughter at home, so that I think the more of her kindness in sparing the time to write.  You may be sure how we were longing for more accounts of you than Alfred could tell.

I hope when more settled warm weather comes that you will feel it do you good, from Isabel’s report is not the best – settled warm weather, which you like so much, and the coming to England of your children before long, will I hope quite do you good. It must be with extended pleasure that you are looking forward to seeing them.  All will I hope be happy for you, and for them as much as can be.  More and more, dear love, do I dwell upon your tender wisdom in every thing you do, and have done, and that you spare your dear girls that they may have modest change and refreshment.  Dear Emily will I hope return home having enjoyed her visit to Miss Yates and sees dear Annie comfortably settled at Southport.  I heard of Miss Yates being blown down in the street some weeks ago, and taken up insensible, but she must have recovered.

I have not heard from Louisa and Elizabeth since they left Maidstone, but hope they will like the change to Norwood. I am writing to Louisa today.  She has had an anxious life, and I hope now that that is past this must depend on the continuance of Elizabeth’s health and life, as her income is a life interest in Mr Ellis’s business.  We have some friends here whom are disposed to be very kind and friendly, Mr and Mrs R C Jones, who have taken a house for three years.  He is a son of your old Bolton friend Emily Darbishire, and his father’s family Henry and I knew in the Potteries.  Mrs Jones I knew as  Louisa Fearn a little girl at Hampstead.  They live some distance from us, so that I do not see them often. 

Sister Emily and I are busy people as we have had no servant for three months – We have managed very well, but I doubt sometimes of we can always go on as we are not like young people. Perhaps the home occupation has been some diversion to her from absorbing thoughts about her daughter  - of whom we do not yet get improved reports.

I think you knew that Captain Frank Rucking left his wife behind when he went out to India she is with her mother at Brighton, and has lately had a son – it would be a month before the news reached the father.

Sister Emily is now a little recovering her spirits, but she felt so unsettled after parting with dear Em that it seemed uncertain whether she would remain here.  The boys thought it best to make no change, and we are feeling more settled.  We have had no servant for this last six weeks, and get on very well and I am really better.

Louisa tells me that the air at South Norwood is as fresh as at Otham and she thinks they shall like it very much, and find it healthier than Maidstone.

Your dear mother is I suppose much more feeble than when I saw her how wonderful her age is – but I have heard from Alice Field today that her brother-in-law, Mr Langmead, at 94 writes capital letter, and is interested in all the news.  I agree with you, dearest Mary, that, if we may choose such a long life is not to be desired.

We shall think of you very much, and I must indulge myself in writing to you a little oftener if it will not tire you.  What true fortitude you all show – your girls are worthy of the mother they have been blessed with.  Emily’s dear love to all with mine – my own dear sister.  Think of me as your affectionate

Ann Mardon

1872    25/5        Letter written by Elizth M Ellis to John Barcham Green  black edged

My dear Cousin,                     2 Enmore Park, South Norwood  S.E.   May 25th 1872

Our friend Mr Collingwood was here yesterday when he was inquiring if I thought you could make a paper similar in texture to the card which I enclose.

I offered to write and ask you when he gave me the following particulars. Some Spanish friends of his have lately been to see him, and they wish to find an English Papermaker who can make and supply them with a strong, tough paper, that will bear bending without cracking, (not made in layers like card board) and handmade.  Their consumption would amount to some thousands of pounds annually.  These friends went to see Mr Collingwood only the day before they left England, when he described to them the paper you showed him when you took him over your Mill, and could they have prolonged their stay in this Country he would have endeavoured through me, to have procured for them an introduction to you.  If you think it will be worth while to make further enquiries respecting this paper and wish to communicate with Mr Collingwood his address is 15 St Thomas’s Street, Borough, but he is now coming here every other day to attend Louisa who is ill and I shall be happy to give him any message from you.

With kind regards, believe me,  Yours truly,    Elizth M Ellis

J B Green Esq.            [HMA 7/2/227 Box 1870-74]

1872    24/7     Letter written by Wm Collingwood to John Barcham Green, 15 St Thomas Street  Boro  SE   24 July 1872   black edged

My dear Sir

I beg to hand you samples of paper & copy of letter received from Barcelona. You can if you please correspond in English as Senr Raventos understands very well & is associated with Senrs Ramerez y Cai   I trust the correspondence may lead to some good business – profitable to all – if you prefer corresponding thro me pray do so – meantime believe me. Yours very truly    Wm Collingwood.. [Ref: HMA 7/2/227 Box 1870-74]  [William Collingwood married Catherine Green in 1876]


To date no more family letters were found in the Hayle Mill Archive – it is thought that personal letters were no longer then stored at the Mill. 


The two letters below came from  Chris Dimont  in 2009.   Frank Green was his great-grandfather. His youngest daughter Nora was his paternal grandmother and Nora  married his grandfather Charles Dimont, the orphaned son of a clergyman. His grandpa later became Chancellor of Salisbury Cathedral. He died in 1953.  What was amazing for me was that the two letters substantiated most of the research I had carried out over the years and also produced a copy of the marriage certificate of John Green and Ann Turner which no longer survived having been destroyed by enemy action in WWII.  Reading the letters it was apparent that the families did still keep in touch and the enquiries by Frank Green to his sister Mary at the time he became Lord Mayor of London presumably as he had to proof evidence of his descent. 


1901    28/11   Letter written from Mary L Green to her brother Frank Green

Penshurst, Woodlands Park, Altrincham                               Nov 28th  1901

My dear Frank

In reply to your letter just received I am sorry to say there is not much hope of gaining the information you require from the Aunts at Lustleigh. Poor Aunt Louisa has been quite astray in her mind for some months often very difficult & troublesome. Aunt Elizabeth after more than a week of almost constant sickness – broke a blood vessel in her nose & was only saved by very prompt & skilful treatment with the extreme exhaustion her life hangs on a thread & her mind and memory are nearly gone.  She sent for Mr Tickle & he went, but found she could not talk intelligibly & he did not stay more than two days. William Powell found a great change at his last visit, as Aunt E. could not understand when he spoke of family matters. However I have written to Miss Pinder & have asked her to try to take advantage of the lucid intervals, which I gather from her letters occur sometimes & if possible to get some if not all the information.  Quite recently Annie & I received two rings, which the Aunts had made in memory of their parents. The inscriptions inside them is as follows – ‘John Green died 11th March 1854 aged 82’ ‘Ann Green died 2nd July 1859 aged 86’. From these dates we can find the dates of their birth respectively 1772 J G & 1773 A G – nee Ann Turner where they were born & married we do not know but they were buried at Maidstone, either in a small burying ground in the town, where our little brother Charles was buried, or at Tovil in a small cemetery used for nonconformists. I am disposed to think the former was the place & that it was situated in Brewer Street, but I cannot feel sure. Arthur Ellis would ascertain this point for you – he was Clerk to the Burial Board when I was last in Maidstone. I think Aunt Eth told me that she was the only one of her family born at Hayle Mills.  The rest having been born at Penshurst. Could you get anything from Herbert Green, as his grandfather & ours were brothers?

Did not the Turner family live at Basted, or Roughway or Chafford. These names are associated with our grandmother. Excuse great haste & with much love from us both.

Believe me dear “Sir”.  Yours very affectionately                Mary L Green


1901    3/12     Letter written from Mary L Green to her brother Frank Green

Penshurst, Woodlands Park, Altrincham.                  Dec 3rd 1901

My dear Frank

I have received from Miss Pinder, Lustleigh, the enclosed copy of the marriage certificate of our grandfather & grandmother Green. I am surprised to find it took place in London. From the baptisimal entry it seems probable that grandfather was born at East Malling & the date is a year earlier than that we supposed from the rings. Miss Pinder says the Aunts speak as if their Father had married well when he married Ann Turner, daughter of a large paper maker at Chafford.  They, the Aunts, have two little gold brooches, inside of one the inscription is “William Turner obit. Oct 10. 1791 aged 64, and in the other Ann Turner obit Dec 17 1790 aged 62 & these were made for grandmother Green in memory of her parents. There is a large family Bible at Lustleigh dated 1688 & it has the entry of John Green & Ann Turner’s marriage and of the birth of all their children. This would remove all doubt as to the date & place of our Father’s birth.  We think you ought to have this bible after the Aunts, & it to be obtained in no other way I dare say Mr Tickle would take a moderate price for it – it cannot be of much value to him unless on account of its early date.  Miss Pinder offers to send the originals of the certificates if we wish for them.  Poor Miss P is having a very hard time with the two old ladies, she tells me she went out to tea with a near friend the other day for the first time since early in July.  I was much grieved to hear you are so much crippled & I fear suffering. I can only hope very earnestly your doctor’s treatment will give speedy relief.

With much love from Annie & self. Yours very affectionately.     Mary L Green                        




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